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Alhanna Ridgeway
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Posted - 2012.09.15 15:00:00 -
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Ok, most people should know by now Im a tank driver. Was proud to be one until yesterday. Since yesterday I have to ask if the people at CCP got Viva Pinata developers to come balance tanks. I feel like Im shooting candy at people, trying to kill people with love and kindness. I didn't think this game was based off Whimsyshire, but it seems to be now, when it comes to tank at least. I think I saw a rainbow shoot out of my turret last night, and little flashes of flowers coming from my gunners.
Since when were tanks not supposed to be feared on a battlefield? Now last night I took one of my other characters that I had started as sniper, so no swarm skills, just sniper skills, and got into a battle which had 2 tanks. I put 1 swarm into the tank, dropped about 1/4 of his shield and all his armor in 1 swarm. 1 SWARM. I can't stress that enough. I blew up a 200.000 isk tank with a ******* free suit with no skills.
Now I see people on here all the time talking about risk vs. reward, but it seems no one wants that to apply to tanks. That tank driver that is running around getting 20+ kills a match just spent probably 10x more isk than you did for your little assault suit. So shouldn't his reward be 10x more than yours, he's fielding the bigger risk. But I forgot everyone wants to play COD 514. How bout we just nerf all the weapons, and everyone can run around and punch each other, no kills, just knockouts. We could rename the game to Fight Night 514.
Balancing a tank was a simple matter of dropping the railgun back a tad and increasing the damage on swarms and forge guns. Not doing that and cutting our resistance. I don't care what anyone thinks that doesn't drive a tank, they made it useless. I got a 1.4M dollar paperweight that I refuse to field because a free suit with no investment can kill me if he just gets up high enough.
The best counter for a vehicle should be another vehicle, not AV. AV should be there as a deterrent to help hold a position, not the end all be all tank killer. Which if another tank is on the field, I personally stop worrying about ground troops, and start worrying about the other vehicle, cause ultimately that's my role, to kill other vehicles as a tank.
Now, Ive said tanks were a little strong before the patch and needed a little tweaking, not nerfed into the ******* ground. And I understand squad support, however last night most people couldn't squad up and randoms don't pay attention to what's going on 90% of the damn time. So ya Im done "testing" (as you call it, I call it giving away free isk) tanks until they do some semblance of balance.
Once again 120,000 isk shouldn't be able to take out 1.4M or more alone. You should be required to come at me with at least 1.4M dollars worth of AV suits. If you can get 1.4M in a suit, then by all means we should be able to have a decent fight going toe to toe. If you're in anything less that 1.4M it shouldn't even be a competition. The term obliterated comes to mind.
And as far as adapting, what you want me to adapt on my tank (armor), I can't stack resistance as effectively, you can't run more than 1 good repper and 1 good armor plate combo, My medium slots are useless cause there is nothing to go in them except a damage control (nerfed as well) which I have one. They don't have specific damage types, swarms hit armor harder, and forge guns hit shields harder, I can't specialize my resistance. So there is no adapting, unless you mean speed in which case I have to give up armor hp on an armor tank, so that doesn't work either. Don't say adapt, if it was all about adapting there should have been no whining in the first place about tanks, because all the assault tards would have adapted to better handle tanks. Oh wait COD 514 it's all about assault and screw everyone else, assault shouldn't have to adapt, they get to be the powerhouses. My bad I apologize for forgetting that.
Let the flaming begin......Have a good day. |
Alhanna Ridgeway
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Posted - 2012.09.15 15:17:00 -
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That calling out positions and having your team kill them sounds good in theory, but I don't know how many times Ive seen assault people just not kill AV people, how hard is it to kill a guy with a swarm launcher, he can't hit you with the swarm, but apparently the assault guys Ive seen can't hit the AV guy. Amazingly bad aiming in this community.
Second an active repper is gonna have a cooldown. So I take the first salvo or two then it cuts off for 30 seconds, in that time there will be enough other salvos coming in to kill me. Especially since we're paper thin. Oh and turning on a module isn't skill. It's R2 and a direction. Timing isn't skill.
And if you are running for cover every couple seconds there is no point in fielding a tank. Tanks are supposed to be in the middle of a fight, providing moving cover for infantry etc. Not running from every Militia fit AV on the field. |
Alhanna Ridgeway
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Posted - 2012.09.15 15:25:00 -
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I admit, I shouldn't get caught alone by 4 or 5 swarm launcher guys, but the issue right now isn't 4 or 5. It's 1 or 2.
And everyone has a different definition of what constitutes skill. Turning on an Active Hardener isn't skill to me, it's moving the controller.
If you want truly skillful players. Put Cap in the game from Eve. I miss Capacitor, managing your cap was skill. If everyone wants to talk about skill and think they got Leet Skills, bring in capacitor and we'll see how well everyone does. |
Alhanna Ridgeway
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Posted - 2012.09.15 18:55:00 -
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Tanks are supposed to run from people since everyone wants to feel like they are the best thing to happen to an FPS since sliced bread. Once someone dies to something they call for a nerf. Nerf tanks I can't kill them 1v1, regardless of the fact he's a tank and Im a damn foot soldier, his tank cost 1.4M isk and Im running around in about a 75k dropsuit......I should be able to go toe to toe with anything and everything. I see it already, MCC gonna get nerfed when people can't shoot it down with an Assault Rifle... Waaahhh my AR doesn't kill the MCC NERF IT. I can't hold down the trigger and just spray bullets and kill it, NERF IT.
Everyone wants the game to be COD, then go play COD. It ain't that I want to play WOT, I want there to be more diversity than everyone running around with a ******* AR. I have no problems using an AR, but that isn't what I want to play anymore.
And as for Beld Failman or whatever, it's a ******* tank. It's not a pony, it's not a stuffed animal, it's a mutherfucking tank. 1v1 a ground troop should always lose to the ******* tank, want to know why? Cause it's a ******* tank you dumbshit. It should take 4 or 5 people to tank out a ******* tank. That's the only way you're fielding as much ISK as I am. It'll take 4 well geared guys to make 1.4M worth of dropsuits. If ISK doesn't directly relate to base power then make everything ******* free. Tanks are supposed to be feared on a battlefield, not the other way around. You realize common foot soldiers need less training than Tank Driver or a Pilot in RL right, same goes in DUST. I have more skills to train than an Assault guy. Assault Suits. Assault Rifle Operation, Assault Rifle Proficiency and you're good. Anything else is extra. Tanks have to train Vehicle Command to 1, which should be 5 for a tank, whatever 12X HAV Skill they want, and no less than 4 armor or shield skills depending on which tank they choose. And once again one of those is a 12X skill. The highest you have to train for assault is what 8x for the suit...whooopdie doo..
****** players want to act like tank drivers are whiny bitches, that need to adapt and overcome and all that ****, well personally, I see it as the other way around. Whatever they don't like they cry NERF instead of doing what they tell everyone else to do. Bunch of double standards around here I see. **** if everyone has to play the same damn way with no vehicles dropships different type of ground troops, just give everyone a damn peashooter and let us go at it.
And **** no, don't seperate driving from shooting, my 1.4M dollar tank isn't a Limosine, and I don't trust anyone else to guard my damn tank correctly but me. I didn't spend 1.4M to escort bunny hopping retards around.
Im done discussing this at this point. I feel like Im talking with a bunch of whiny brat kids bound for the special olympics. |
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